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mancubus
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« on: December 25, 2003, 12:56:50 AM »

Its vamp hunter d, by the way.  Alright, here is the deal.  At the local gas station, there is this stupid little toy voice changer thing for really cheap.  So, I bought it, and replaced the microphone and the speaker with 1/4 jacks, and it sounded pretty cool with my guitar.  Problem is, that the voice changer changes the sound so much, that you can no longer hear the guitar notes.  So, at that time I was running a power amp out of my amp, and both my amp, and the power amp had their own individual cabinets.  So I just put the voice changer in front of the power amp, so that through one cabinet, you could hear the guitar signal through one, and the voice changer through the other, and it sounded how I would want it to sound.But, running it like that is not something I would want to do, and I no longer use my poweramp, so I was wondering what the best way would be to make it so that the voice changer is mixed with the guitar signal, so that you'll be able to then hear the notes of the guitar, and the voice changer along with it, as opposed to only being able to hear the voice changer and not the notes of the guitar.  Any help would be appreciating.
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2003, 12:26:57 PM »

If I understand correctly...

All you'd really need is a mix knob.  As long as the voice changer doesnt change the level too much (does it?) then all you really need is a 10-100k or so pot.  Wire the center lug to the "hot" side of the output jack, one side to the output of the voice changer, and one to your guitar.  Experiment with different values.  If it's to high, then there will be too much "space" in the center.  If the voice changer level is too high, try putting a maybe 50k or so pot at the end of it.  Wire the output of it to the center lug of the pot, one side to ground, and one side to the side lug of the mix pot.  If you need them to get louder, then things get a bit more complicated, but just a bit.

I'd love to hear this, let me know if you record soundclips...

-Colin
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2003, 02:58:44 PM »

thanks alot.  Thats very helpful.  This is, this thing was shittily built, and the first one I bought, a bunch of shit broke off. So, its so cheap that I'm just gonna go buy another one tomorow.  Its cool though, it sounds like a ring mod, but it has 5 switches that you can play around with to make various pitch and ring shifts.  I'll for surely make some sound clips when its done.
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2003, 04:37:59 PM »

Quote from: "mancubus"
thanks alot.  Thats very helpful.  This is, this thing was shittily built, and the first one I bought, a bunch of shit broke off. So, its so cheap that I'm just gonna go buy another one tomorow.  Its cool though, it sounds like a ring mod, but it has 5 switches that you can play around with to make various pitch and ring shifts.  I'll for surely make some sound clips when its done.

Interesting.  My friend bought one for the same reason and was determined to do the same thing... this was maybe a year or two ago, and now that I could easily put it into a stompbox, he's very reluctant, who knows why.  Maybe I'll ask him if I can do it one more time :).  I know some other guy on the net did it for fun, and said it was just that.

-Colin
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2003, 05:51:35 PM »

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If I understand correctly...

All you'd really need is a mix knob.  As long as the voice changer doesnt change the level too much (does it?) then all you really need is a 10-100k or so pot.  Wire the center lug to the "hot" side of the output jack, one side to the output of the voice changer, and one to your guitar.  Experiment with different values.  If it's to high, then there will be too much "space" in the center.  If the voice changer level is too high, try putting a maybe 50k or so pot at the end of it.  Wire the output of it to the center lug of the pot, one side to ground, and one side to the side lug of the mix pot.  If you need them to get louder, then things get a bit more complicated, but just a bit.

I'd love to hear this, let me know if you record soundclips...

-Colin

so, when you say one side to the output and one to the voice changer, do you mean to the ground lugs on the jacks?  Something like this?

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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2003, 09:04:27 PM »

You got the diagram right, except that you aren't connecting the grounds to either side of the pot, you're connecting the hot input to one side, and the output from the voice changer to the other side.  Do you get how it works?  The only thing that the input jack hot wire should be connected to is the side lug of the pot, and the only thing the hot output of the voice changer should be connected to is the other side lug of the pot, and the only thing that the center lug should be connected to is the hot lug of the output jack.  Make sense?

-Colin
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2003, 09:35:19 PM »

ok, so something along these lines:



you say "The only thing that the input jack hot wire should be connected to is the side lug of the pot"  but wouldn't the hot from the voice changer have to be wired to the hot of the jack as well?
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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2003, 09:41:32 AM »

Yeah, my mistake, that looks right.  It should work well.

-Colin
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