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mattIsA_Lamma
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« on: January 21, 2007, 05:09:01 PM »

when ordering resistors what is the difference between 1/4w and 1/8w?
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2007, 05:44:29 PM »

I wouldn't be able to answer this with much confidence, but I do know that for most of these types of projects (diy effects and noise boxes) 1/4w is the norm, and that you should be fine with those. Someone please correct me if wrong.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2007, 06:17:09 PM »

OK, thanks. Do you know about the phrase 100k log . I know its a pot but, I don't know which.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2007, 08:39:07 PM »

Linear pots go in a linear fashion, obviously. Like, ABCDEFG.


Log pots go closer to ABCFHIJ or something in that way.

Unless I'm wrong, which at this point is probable.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2007, 11:32:36 PM »

The watt rating refers to the amount of power they can handle.  1/8 watt means that once you get above 1/8 watts, they will start to burn up... 1/4 watt's max is 1/4 watt.  Knowing that our voltage is almost always 9v, and the max current we'd have goign through a resistor is maybe 10 mA (though that would be pretty high...) P=IV, or .01*9=.09.  1/8W is .125W so you will be fine with that-same with 1/4W, 1/4W can handle anything 1/8 watt can.  So why not just make resistors with really high power handing?  (you can get many-watt resistors)  Because they get bigger... sometimes very very big.  1/4W are only a little bigger than 1/8W, but are slightly more common, so they are often cheaper, which is why you see them more.

Log refers to the taper pot-if you need a 100k log pot, get one with an "audio" "logarithmic" or "exponential" taper.  



In that graph, the rotation amount is plotted against the ratio of the resistances from the middle lug to one side vs to the other side.  So a linear pot has a resistance ratio of 50/50 at 12 oclock-so a 100k pot would have resistances 50k from the center lug to either side lug.  For a log pot, the ratio is about 10/90, so at 12 oclock a 100k pot would have resistance 10k from the center to one side and 90k from the center to another side.

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2007, 07:11:20 AM »

100k log and 100k linear are the same in overall resistance value, it's just how that resistance changes that is affected.

Log pots (at least my understanding) tend to be used (in our audio diy apps) for such things as volume pots, where the log action closely mimics the way the human ear percieves changes in sound volume. For other controls that need pots, you'll mostly be using lin(ear)- I'm sure there are cases where log is appropriate as well, but being a noob myself, It seems that lin is the norm (except for volume).

The experts can clue you in to other uses for log pots.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2007, 12:03:26 PM »

Also, does anyone know where I can find ferric acid. Radio Shack and all the hardware stores around here don't carry it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2007, 01:41:55 PM »

NVM I found some at http://www.rpelectronics.com/
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2007, 01:50:19 PM »

DAMNIT! They wont ship it!
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2007, 02:14:47 PM »

I know how you feel...

Internet is great, sometimes...
And sometimes it's a hassle.

But i thought that that site did do international shipping?
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2007, 02:31:50 PM »

They do international shipping but, they wont ship the ferric chloride because they say it is to dangerous.

But, I found out that Fry's electronics carries it. Finding out was hard. When I called and I asked if they carried Ferric Chloride thier responses were unbelievable. I was transfered to a couple different departments where people asked me if that was a person or a cd or a program and each time I would explain what it was and they would say, "We are Fry's electronics. We carry electronics not chemicals but, I'll transfer you to another department." Times like that is when I want to burn places down.  :D
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2007, 02:39:36 PM »

Haha!

Some people...

I have that with the local electronics shop, so often i get the wrong stuff (hell i just write down what i see on schematic). I always hope they know what is that i need, but the last couple of times i got the wrong trannies and stuff.

Builds up an assortment, so that's something.

But good to hear you found what you need!
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